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Fastback Thomas

Belgium
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Posted - 08 May 2011 :  15:20:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I was working on her yesterday.
and I wanted to take the rear window trims of, but found this very difficult!
I only got one of.
I did found that there were little clips, holding it on!
Can anyone give me some advice on this?
(it's an early model!)



I like a car that looks normal but really knocks your socks off!!

Edited by - Fastback Thomas on 08 May 2011 15:21:53

Fastback Thomas

Belgium
423 Posts

Posted - 06 Jun 2011 :  17:18:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Has anyone advice for me as to replacing these with a strip or with putting these back in...
Is the wather seal good with this old version?

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Sunbeam-mike

United Kingdom
165 Posts

Posted - 15 Jun 2011 :  10:31:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thomas,

If you don't need to take the trim off I would leave it alone!

I took out my front windscreen to deal with some rot.

The trim was held in with clips, half of which were broken and a few more broke when I removed the trim. These clips were mounted on little studs attached to the window aperture.

The glass was bonded in.

I could not find replacement clips anywhere. I ended up grinding out the little studs and fitting a normal rubber surround.

My rear screen is also bonded in, like yours. And it leaks. As does one of the quaterlights!

I'm not looking forward to tackling it because of the hassle I had with the front screen. At least with the front I could ditch the original trim and use a rubber seal, but the rear is an unusual shape and I'm not sure a rubber trim is available.

I even tried to hunt down the trim removal tool mentioned in the workshop manual (Rootes part number Z-8573).

Let me know how you get on!

Mike




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Fastback Thomas

Belgium
423 Posts

Posted - 15 Jun 2011 :  11:00:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Many thanks for the final reply!

My front window has the orignal trim, although the clips that connect the 2 pieces are missing and isn't bonded in... (I found pieces of glass in the heater probably because it broke once and was replaced)

It's not an option to leave it in the car as it is a full restoration, it's probably leaking, and it's not an option to use it only in nice weather as it's going to be my daily driver when I turn 18 in 2 years.

My Granddad has a white fastback (73 or so) and it has the trim you probably have in the front windscreen.
I know the rubbers aren't available that well, but I hope the club is going to have them made... As for the strange shape of it... to make the corners there are special corner pieces. I found some original ones on the parts day of rootes archive center at Banbury on drive-it day.

I'm thinking I'm just going to replace it with the later model trim... just to make it easier, and probably holding much longer!

Thanks for the information!

http://www.sunbeamrapier.co.uk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=237
It's here where I post some of the progress I make.

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argonaut

Hungary
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Posted - 13 Aug 2011 :  21:25:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Thomas, I'm not sure if you're referring to the front or rear screens /windows. From your pictures I assume the rears.
One of my early cars had a similar type of stainless steel trims, they were fitted to the rubber window seal. The seal itself had a "T" shape section to fit the stainless trims. Most other cars I've seen had the later type that simply have a plastic fillet that sits in a channel in the seal rubber. I tried for a long time to find decent condition replacement rubbers with the "T" shape section - I couldn't find them anywhere. My advice would be don't disturb then unless you have to as replacements are probably impossible to find. If you really have to take them out be careful and do you best tp salvage the originals. By the way, the stainless trims with the "T" section rubber are a bitch to refit. The rear screen had four corner pieces to cover the joins that were fitted with self tapping screws although I have also seen rear screen trims that had dovetail style corners - like the ones in your picture. Ref front screen, mine had stainless trims that overlay the rubber, they were such a bitch to refit that I didn't bother in the end.

Edited by - argonaut on 13 Aug 2011 21:26:38
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Fastback Thomas

Belgium
423 Posts

Posted - 14 Aug 2011 :  12:26:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi argonaut,
thanks for the reply on this, but in the meanwhile I've allready taken out the windows, all of them, I could recycle the rubbers, but then I wouldn't be able to fit any of the trim as the rubbers are just a straight piece of rubber about 1/4 inch thick... and the trim go's over a metal piece like sunbeam-mike showed us...
I had to take them out becausde there was rust under it...
I'm really hoping the club is going the remanufacture the later type rubbers as I wouldn't mind changing my trim, as long as it looks ok...
Thomas

'68 sunbeam rapier fastback {B341006846 OD/LHO}
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