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Mk3sceptreLuke

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Posted - 22 Jul 2013 :  13:30:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Anyone know if mk2 escort single leaf springs fit straight to the sceptre's?
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Mk3sceptreLuke

28 Posts

Posted - 22 Jul 2013 :  13:32:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
And Andy... Could you send the part numbers of bushes etc and where you got them from??
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andyb

United Kingdom
367 Posts

Posted - 22 Jul 2013 :  14:37:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I will get all the part numbers for you tonight

mk2 springs are 60mm wide so no
mk1 spring are 2" wide so maybe

mk1 and mk2 are the same length I would need to get some measurements
for you, it would be handy for me to know as well !

I have saved all the part numbers for everything I have bought
track rod ends wheel bearings ebc discs & pads etc.


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andyb

United Kingdom
367 Posts

Posted - 22 Jul 2013 :  14:49:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here you go luke I remembered it was superflex
nobody else lists them !

http://www.superflex.co.uk/products.php?cat=316



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Mk3sceptreLuke

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Posted - 22 Jul 2013 :  17:58:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Chap! Your a top man Andy, nice one!
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1922

United Kingdom
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Posted - 22 Jul 2013 :  18:49:40  Show Profile  Visit 1922's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I've compared Capri leaf springs - I think these are the same as the Escort.

The springs were about 3 inches longer and the axle mounts closer to the front. I never tried but it looked like they might just be made to fit if you drill a new location hole for the axle.
Don't know if the existing hole would be a weak point or not.

I used early model Sierra springs on post '73 standard front struts. The springs are 40% uprated (I think this made them 120lb). The ride height is one inch lower than standard. The springs needed just a little grinding on the very ends - then they fit as well as original springs.

Later model Sierras have much larger diameter springs that won't fit.

I found the Spax strut inserts for the struts to hard for road use and prone to pulling out of the struts (it's difficult to remove the old insert without stretching the top of the strut body). Standard struts work nicely though with the springs I have.

I got the springs, inserts and rear shocks from SCA Race and Rally in Norwich - but this was over 20 years ago.

Hope this helps.


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andyb

United Kingdom
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Posted - 22 Jul 2013 :  21:22:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
All good information 1922
It Will help others pick and choose what will work for them
My early struts had some cut down spings that where tack welded to the pans
The whole lot got skipped as it was dangerous
I think gaz recons would be ok with std springs for a std road car

All mine has been guess work,only Time will tell if I was right or wrong !





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Mk3sceptreLuke

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Posted - 22 Jul 2013 :  23:18:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Cheers 1922.
The funny thing is that I'm from Norwich. Sca is still going but there's to many ********s down there with there modern crap being done. I was Gunna ask them for advice but didn't think they'd have much on old cars. And they tend to be quite expensive. You from Norwich bud? Could be a close usefull resource!
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turbinecol

United Kingdom
85 Posts

Posted - 24 Jul 2013 :  09:40:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Good to see you here Luke. I suggested on the PVHCC forum to come here, and as you can see there are some top guys with lots of good advice.

Admin: Suggest we move this to tech forum?
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Mk3sceptreLuke

28 Posts

Posted - 24 Jul 2013 :  10:23:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yeah mate, cheers for telling me, springs and ball joints should be on tonight if the joints turn up today ready for 2nd MOT on Saturday.

Good advice on here, good to see the enthusiasm from the owners.
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turbinecol

United Kingdom
85 Posts

Posted - 25 Jul 2013 :  07:59:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
When you've done it, can you list out exactly what you bought in the end - and check the ride height, etc.

I am after a 1" drop and no more for my Hunter, this might prove to be useful info for me. Unless 1922 had the ford part number/ FINIS codes from those Sierra springs?
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Mk3sceptreLuke

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Posted - 25 Jul 2013 :  10:24:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Put the springs on last night, sits alot higher on the front now, they've bed in a little bit but not much, n not sure if they'll bed in more unless I buy different better shocks. I'm no mechanic so don't no!

All I've used for it is mk2escort rear lowering blocks (2''drop) mk2 escort 2'' lowering springs 175lb as Andy said. I'm now debating having the legs converted to coilovers in the winter though. I also replaced the ball joints as they were shot!
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andyb

United Kingdom
367 Posts

Posted - 25 Jul 2013 :  16:16:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
here you go luke

this chap uses his sceptre for classic rallying in Scotland
pictured here on last weekends great glens rally
had a quick chat with him when we marshalled on the saltire rally in march up near pitlochry

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Edited by - andyb on 25 Jul 2013 16:17:16
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Mk3sceptreLuke

28 Posts

Posted - 25 Jul 2013 :  18:19:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That looks very nice mate. Is it standard engine? N did he say what suspension is on his?
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andyb

United Kingdom
367 Posts

Posted - 25 Jul 2013 :  19:44:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I can't remember what strut inserts he had but it was a bit soft on the front
It had webers on and electronic ignition.



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