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andyb

United Kingdom
367 Posts

Posted - 08 Jan 2013 :  12:40:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
fastback parts required

H120 throttle cable
rear screen seal
glove box catch (not the lock on the lid)
gearbox bellhousing splash guard
nice thick rimmed steering wheel (not too small)
black carpet
drivers door outer chrome trim
H120 boot lid
green laminated front screen....yeah i know !
some nice 13" retro wheels (not slotmags)

has anybody converted a car with o/drive to a std 4 speed box ..info required (i have box & propshaft) is it a case of simply swopping over ?

ok i admit i have been lazy over the last year but......
i have to get it ready as it will be competing in the 3 day rally of the tests in november

i do have a spares only j reg automatic but it in a poor state if anybody is looking for bits & bobs

sometimes nothing can be a real cool hand

arrocuda

United Kingdom
501 Posts

Posted - 08 Jan 2013 :  20:55:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by andyb

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some nice 13" retro wheels (not slotmags)



Are there any others?

Might have a door trim in there somewhere as I have 2 spare doors. I'll take a look next time I'm down there.

Building the 'Mark II' fastback Rapier ('Arrocuda').
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1922

United Kingdom
549 Posts

Posted - 09 Jan 2013 :  13:54:00  Show Profile  Visit 1922's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
has anybody converted a car with o/drive to a std 4 speed box ..info required (i have box & propshaft) is it a case of simply swopping over ?



Yes you can swap the o/d box and std - they are the same length. The propshafts are the same length - I'm using a 1500 Hunter prop on my Rapier.

Internally there are just two differences:
The mainshaft for the std box is longer and has splines for the prop.
The mainshaft for the o/d is short and connects to the o/d.

The o/d box has an adaptor and overdrive on the back
The std box has an aluminium case the same length as the overdrive and adapter on the back (I've got one at home I use as a door stop in the shed!).

The speedo might be out afterwards though. Depends on the speedo drive gears on the gearbox - they are several types depending on back axle ratio etc.

I'm a bit puzzled why you want to remove the overdrive box and fit non-overdrive box - unless it's a temporary measure while the overdrive is overhauled?


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HunterGLS

Ireland
95 Posts

Posted - 09 Jan 2013 :  14:32:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My GLS does not have overdrive and I was thinking about retro fitting it. Is it worth doing?

As regards windscreens you can order one from Pilkington is any colour you want. I have ordered a couple of Audi ones, they cost in the region of £300 inc VAT and delivery. The details are in the current "Cut And Thrust".

1972 Hillman Hunter GLS
1973 NSU Ro 80
1974 Fiat 130 Coupe
1973 Audi 100 GL
1979 Audi 100 Avant
1981 Audi 200 5T
1982 Audi 100 CS
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andyb

United Kingdom
367 Posts

Posted - 09 Jan 2013 :  15:14:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
1922
i will be using the car for classic rallies which include "special tests" i will be fitting a hydraulic handbrake and limited slip dff,
i have been advised that the overdrive unit splines are quite weak when used in this manner and are liable to twist and as i have a spare box i might as well change it

no worries about the speedo as i will be using an electronic trip meter with speed readout

hunter gls

thanks for the tip on the screen will look into that

arrocuda
i thought about cosmics or dunlop d1 wheels
the car is pinewood green so would look good on d1's

its going to get a H120 stripe down it either green or silver not decided yet !
thanks for the replies so far !

sometimes nothing can be a real cool hand
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1922

United Kingdom
549 Posts

Posted - 13 Jan 2013 :  10:52:25  Show Profile  Visit 1922's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Yes the overdrive shaft is a weak spot - I've got one in the shed with a twist in the middle of the input splines.
This was the result of a full throttle launch on a pub car park many years ago


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1922

United Kingdom
549 Posts

Posted - 13 Jan 2013 :  10:58:19  Show Profile  Visit 1922's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hunter GLS - I would definitely fit an overdrive.

3rd overdrive is very handy around town - you can flick in and out without using the clutch. Handy for overtaking too

4th overdrive is like 5th in a modern car - it reduces noise and saves on petrol.

Obviously if you are planning on launching at 6000 rpm on a regular basis - it's probably best not to!


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andyb

United Kingdom
367 Posts

Posted - 15 Jan 2013 :  12:40:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Got a screen sorted £285.00 inc vat

the wiring is about 99% finished all lights,instruments wipers etc working the loom just needs securing

the engine is on the key and runs on the webers,just need to sort out a throttle cable

snow stops play at the moment !

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JPSH120

United Kingdom
1191 Posts

Posted - 15 Jan 2013 :  13:12:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by 1922

Hunter GLS - I would definitely fit an overdrive.

3rd overdrive is very handy around town - you can flick in and out without using the clutch. Handy for overtaking too

4th overdrive is like 5th in a modern car - it reduces noise and saves on petrol.

Obviously if you are planning on launching at 6000 rpm on a regular basis - it's probably best not to!






Any help with fuel saving on these engines is a must have!!
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Edited by - JPSH120 on 15 Jan 2013 13:15:45
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1922

United Kingdom
549 Posts

Posted - 16 Jan 2013 :  09:02:56  Show Profile  Visit 1922's Homepage  Reply with Quote
My 1840 with Webers would get just over 30 mpg on a run - getting stuck in traffic was a different story though!


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JPSH120

United Kingdom
1191 Posts

Posted - 16 Jan 2013 :  12:47:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I may have the glovebox catch and drop an e-mail to Dave Boulton (aka Rapierdave) who may have some wheels - see the link below (his is the blue fastback).

http://www.sunbeamrapier.co.uk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=438



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andyb

United Kingdom
367 Posts

Posted - 21 Jan 2013 :  14:30:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
jpsh120

let me know how much inc p&p for the g/box catch
im not a big lover of those turbo vec wheels, might go with minilites

i now have a roll cage sorted made to order, i have to drop the car off for a couple of days might as well do that sooner rather than later as the trim is out

again thanks for the ongoing help everyone
most people i speak to are pleased that a fastback will be out rallying

sometimes nothing can be a real cool hand
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bigt80

United Kingdom
1052 Posts

Posted - 25 Jan 2013 :  19:29:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sorry, not Rapier related, screens for B2 Audi's should still be available from windscreen replacement firms - wouldn't use Autoglass tho, avoid them if at all possible: loads of problems with them when I had to use them last time and their ads drive me mad . G.

quote:
Originally posted by HunterGLS

My GLS does not have overdrive and I was thinking about retro fitting it. Is it worth doing?

As regards windscreens you can order one from Pilkington is any colour you want. I have ordered a couple of Audi ones, they cost in the region of £300 inc VAT and delivery. The details are in the current "Cut And Thrust".

1972 Hillman Hunter GLS
1973 NSU Ro 80
1974 Fiat 130 Coupe
1973 Audi 100 GL
1979 Audi 100 Avant
1981 Audi 200 5T
1982 Audi 100 CS


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HunterGLS

Ireland
95 Posts

Posted - 26 Jan 2013 :  00:51:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by bigt80

Sorry, not Rapier related, screens for B2 Audi's should still be available from windscreen replacement firms - wouldn't use Autoglass tho, avoid them if at all possible: loads of problems with them when I had to use them last time and their ads drive me mad . G.


The screens I needed were for the Typ 43 100 and 200 unfortunately.
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andyb

United Kingdom
367 Posts

Posted - 28 Jan 2013 :  09:38:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
parts arrived
centre steering linkage
nos clutch pipe
6 new 175/70/13 vredestein snowtrac 3 tyres
ngk plugs

parts ordered
full set of superflex bushes

still looking for the parts listed above :)

sometimes nothing can be a real cool hand
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andyb

United Kingdom
367 Posts

Posted - 31 Jan 2013 :  12:59:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
parts arrived

superflex bushes
rootes rapier manual

parts ordered
lht track rod ends
front wheel bearings
bottom ball joints
all from local motor factors

rht track rod ends ebay

still looking for
H120 throttle cable
rear screen seal
glove box catch (not the lock on the lid)
gearbox bellhousing splash guard
nice thick rimmed steering wheel (not too small)
black carpet
drivers door outer chrome trim
H120 boot lid



sometimes nothing can be a real cool hand
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