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bigt80

United Kingdom
1052 Posts

Posted - 08 Mar 2015 :  09:01:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes, I think it will be at Black & White Cars of Parkstone, Poole. It's only down the road from Ringwood. .
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Rapierdave

United Kingdom
161 Posts

Posted - 08 Mar 2015 :  05:29:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Car sold within hours of going on sale, suspect we will see this one on a dealers forecourt for £7000 soon.

Coupes are cool

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bigt80

United Kingdom
1052 Posts

Posted - 07 Mar 2015 :  21:36:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well spotted! Yes, it seems to be good value. Interior has been improved since the last ad, as it had a big centre console fitted.
Current owner did not keep it for long: hopefully that's not because it is not a good car. Hope it will stay in the club too, but you're probably right about dealer: they seem to be latching on to Rapiers at the moment, following a rise in price of them generally.
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Rapierdave

United Kingdom
161 Posts

Posted - 07 Mar 2015 :  10:47:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Now up for sale again, i have just had a chat to the owner & it appears to be a good car at a keen price.
Almost certainly be snapped up by a dealer who will add £2000 to the asking price.

http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C591134

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bigt80

United Kingdom
1052 Posts

Posted - 02 Dec 2013 :  21:14:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
No, no record of it before this ad appeared. G.
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Stig

United Kingdom
34 Posts

Posted - 01 Dec 2013 :  09:46:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This looks a nice cared for car that has had money spent on it by the looks of the painwork and checking the insurance database it is insured, so is running I would guess. I think anyone seriously interested in a Rapier would have to check this one out with more pictures and info from the seller. Moresey has visited some piles of rust aver the last 6 months and this one is in Scotland. Anyone know any history of this car? is it known on the club database?
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arrocuda

United Kingdom
501 Posts

Posted - 28 Nov 2013 :  08:01:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
A good H120 motor with known history or a machine shop rebuild will cost at least £500 - 600. Add the wheels at a £100, along with a boot lid.... which are getting hard to find now. Probably the best part of another £100 for delivery costs unless you get lucky and they just happen to be local to you and your looking at maybe 800 - 1000, plus the cost of a good standard car (£2750).

I have to agree, even if the car isn't a genuine factory car, if it's as good as it looks, it's pretty good value when you look at a lot of the rubbish that's been offered this last few months.



Building the 'Mark II' fastback Rapier ('Arrocuda').
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Mooresy

United Kingdom
161 Posts

Posted - 27 Nov 2013 :  20:45:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Put into perspective. It is probably not a bad price either way. If it is as straight as it looks (They often aren't) but we don't know that. Certainly the two 'Genuine H120's I have viewed didn't look as good as this in the pictures and one was positively appalling when viewed in 'the metal' (offered at £4,000). The other, original enough but full of lifting filler.

So, the calculation would be - Cost of standard Sunbeam Rapier in good condition + Cost of complete Holbay engine in good running order + cost of a set of Rostyles and a stripe + Cost of a H120 boot lid, and a little time and effort to convert = ? ? ? would probably come to more than the asking price when all-said-and-done.

Oh and maybe - the cost of a second hand interior.
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bigt80

United Kingdom
1052 Posts

Posted - 27 Nov 2013 :  13:47:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mooresy

It's had a home made center console put in and the aluminium cladding is missing from the factory fit center console.

http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C452921



Only a minor point, but early cars did not have cladding on the centre console; they were plain black - better IMHO. The cladding and the side strips came in around mid '71 I think.
I've not seen this car before: from down south originally, but obviously car isn't 'original' per se, however it does look solid enough. I would advise anyone seriously interested to enquire as to chassis/body no. as club can potentially help establish if it is a genuine H120 or not - on the evidence I've seen and read I would say it is - one or two H120's did possibly slip through with Rapier badge on g'box in early days of manufacture at Ryton. Cheers. G.
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JPSH120

United Kingdom
1180 Posts

Posted - 24 Nov 2013 :  15:42:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by arrocuda

quote:
Originally posted by JPSH120

I'd want to check the chassis number to make sure it was a genuine H120 if I was thinking of buying it.



Just looking at the engine pic' and can see that the VIN plate has been removed. If you look carefully you can see the holes where the rivets have been removed on the LHS of the cross member. Also.... only a small thing but can't help noticing that the guy is selling it as a 'Holby' as in 'Holby City', the sick peoples soap drama on TV. The kind of mistake that an enthusiast is very unlikely to make. Definitely dodgier than an East Enders plot this one!

Building the 'Mark II' fastback Rapier ('Arrocuda').



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arrocuda

United Kingdom
501 Posts

Posted - 24 Nov 2013 :  13:56:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by JPSH120

I'd want to check the chassis number to make sure it was a genuine H120 if I was thinking of buying it.



Just looking at the engine pic' and can see that the VIN plate has been removed. If you look carefully you can see the holes where the rivets have been removed on the LHS of the cross member. Also.... only a small thing but can't help noticing that the guy is selling it as a 'Holby' as in 'Holby City', the sick peoples soap drama on TV. The kind of mistake that an enthusiast is very unlikely to make. Definitely dodgier than an East Enders plot this one!

Building the 'Mark II' fastback Rapier ('Arrocuda').

Edited by - arrocuda on 24 Nov 2013 14:03:28
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arrocuda

United Kingdom
501 Posts

Posted - 23 Nov 2013 :  10:14:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
After fitting the seats out of a Suzuki Swift into a Rapier I find it hard to believe that it's been refitted with seats from a Rover Sterling. I've had 2 Rover 800's and the seats are enormous.

Building the 'Mark II' fastback Rapier ('Arrocuda').
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andyb

United Kingdom
367 Posts

Posted - 22 Nov 2013 :  19:35:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Not sure it's a ford wheel but the switch on the column looks modern
Was thinking about converting my switch gear to mk2 escort
I don't like the wiper/washer switch when rallying

The car does look good but it's a worry when you see a tywrap holding the battery in :0












sometimes nothing can be a real cool hand
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JPSH120

United Kingdom
1180 Posts

Posted - 20 Nov 2013 :  03:57:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'd want to check the chassis number to make sure it was a genuine H120 if I was thinking of buying it. Converting a standard fastback to H120 spec has been done many times and it is often the small details (glove box badge for example) that get overlooked. It could be genuine but certainly worth checking.

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Mooresy

United Kingdom
161 Posts

Posted - 19 Nov 2013 :  21:22:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Looks tidy, If its a good as it looks, its priced pretty keen. Its quite an early H120 on a 69 plate.
Just a few obvious observations really, It's 'H120' wing badges are missing, It's had a home made center console put in and the aluminium cladding is missing from the factory fit center console. The Glove box does not seem to have a H120 badge on it either. and I guess the interior may put a few people off. But when all said the all important bodywork looks sound enough and if the engine has had work done recently then It'll get you home too !
It's too far for me though. I just checked the route planner and I'm not up for a 10 hour round trip. Shame, but I have to be practical.

Forgot to mention the steering wheel, and maybe the Rostyle center caps ? They look like Ford / MG ones, Hard to tell

http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C452921

Edited by - Mooresy on 22 Nov 2013 19:06:02
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