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Mooresy

United Kingdom
161 Posts

Posted - 24 Feb 2015 :  19:44:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here's one that's been advertised for a good few years.BKT 444K (72) Sundance yellow. Looks solid enough but the right hand wing tip looks like its heavily filled. Interesting Tomb stone seats. I seem to recall this one being advertised for ever on the Classic Cars website (years in fact). Think it was up for around £6000 originally - a bit optimistic.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sunbeam-Rapier-Fastback-/321672298952?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item4ae529c1c8

The White 68'non-runner VGD 657G (with very good condition bodywork?!) is back on at a lower price £2995 (Think it was 3.5 k last time). Not sure whether this sold recently. seems to ring a bell. Solid looking but in reality would need quite a few bodywork repairs and a full re-spray to bring upto scratch (oh and whatever is wrong with the electrics / engine / fueling sorting out).
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1968-Sunbeam-Rapier-Fastback-Very-Good-Condition-very-rare-/251841597445?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item3aa2edd005

Next up is the neat little dark blue 70' Alpine, TPY 71H. The body looks pretty nice to me with excellent crisp looking wing tips and arches. Not keen on the tow bar and rear registration location, but I guess you cant have everything. Would benefit from a bit of detailing under the hood. At £6850 its pretty expensive but you have to ask yourself how much time, effort and expense would it take to turn the above white one into this one. I mean, a full strip down re-spray and lots of bodywork isn't going to be cheap these days.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1970-SUNBEAM-ALPINE-Fastback-Rootes-Arrow-Series-/221696946107?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item339e2aefbb

Lastly, Not cheap. but honest looking, a 70' in metallic green Auto, VAY 301H. Looks like it has had some work to the wing tips, but just has that honest look to it. No interior or engine bay shots though. Was only sold to someone on the forum the beginning of August 2014 (MartinD). Got bored of that quickly. Yours for £4900.
http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C586718#

And another one folks. Its a Bronze 1973 manual with overdrive, Reg PGH 66L. Did this sell at action in North Yorkshire around 18 months ago? Looks pretty straight at £3995. Not sure wheather its sold as the pictures look like there from spring / summer.

http://jauntyjalopies.co.uk/carsforsale/caritem.php?id=18

Edited by - Mooresy on 01 Mar 2015 14:15:02

pollystag

70 Posts

Posted - 24 Feb 2015 :  19:59:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi,
i viewed the white one a couple of weeks ago, its not very nice, the engine is seized there is lots of filler and its a total resto job.
the owner is an eternal optimist and was laughing that he had turned down a few bids of £1500 i told him he should have bit there hands off for that. in my opinion hardly worth 5 or 6 hundred.
steve.
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Mooresy

United Kingdom
161 Posts

Posted - 24 Feb 2015 :  21:10:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sounds about right Pollystag, anyone who describes the bodywork on this car a 'very good' is clearly deluded. and with a seized engine, £500 tops?
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bigt80

United Kingdom
1052 Posts

Posted - 24 Feb 2015 :  21:56:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks for putting together that summary Mooresy.
The values are on the up, which is OK if you already own one.
Yes, Sundance one is a decent car as I recall and was owned for many years by long time member who died a couple of years ago - it had, had some work, so was a little bit ragged round the edges when I last saw it - still genuine car.
The Alpine was restored in 2001 and still looks good; as does the green auto, which was only sold last year I think.
As for the white one - also auto: yes, that much for a non runner & engine seized! . If it was just that not so bad, but body full of filler too: I'd rather have one untouched - if you can find one as at least it won't be hiding lots of bad workmanship. Yes; maybe a grand tops if the interior is very good. G

Edited by - bigt80 on 24 Feb 2015 22:06:21
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arrocuda

United Kingdom
501 Posts

Posted - 25 Feb 2015 :  07:21:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Moorsey..... good to see you back in these parts. Are the dubbers wearing you down yet?.... or is the desire to own a piece of Rootes brothers automotive history finally getting the better of you?



Building the 'Mark II' fastback Rapier ('Arrocuda').
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Mooresy

United Kingdom
161 Posts

Posted - 25 Feb 2015 :  18:37:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ha Ha, You got me sussed. Cant help looking at Sunbeams and Hillmans. Yeh, I would love to swap the ghia for a polish-and go-H120 but I just can't find one. Started some jobs on the Ghia. Got rid of the American spec twin vacuum advance anti-smog dizzy along with the crappy Brosol antismog carb. Swapped it for an original euro spec VW Solex. Rewired the headlamps and side lights (properly). Fitted an electric washer pump (the spare tyre system just wasn't up to it). New tail lenses and a few perished ribber bits replaced (door scraper seals). Got the fuel flap mechanism working properly with a new handle etc. loads of stuff Sprayed Dynax in the cavities just in the process of re-undersealing the front wings and much much more. At some stage I'll have to stop and start driving it.

Edited by - Mooresy on 25 Feb 2015 19:46:24
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Mooresy

United Kingdom
161 Posts

Posted - 25 Feb 2015 :  21:52:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Another couple of bargains.

One for £450.00 and another for £1,700.

http://www.sunbeamclub.co.za/trading.html
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Rapierdave

United Kingdom
161 Posts

Posted - 27 Feb 2015 :  06:44:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
and another one

http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C588599

Looks very nice, top money anyone on here know anything about this car ?

Coupes are cool

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JonandJude

United Kingdom
84 Posts

Posted - 27 Feb 2015 :  09:51:49  Show Profile  Visit JonandJude's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Loving the extra switches and indicator lights in the centre console, they're fab.
I did go and have a look at the yellow one in Skeggy the other day, looked nice and was getting at LOT of attention. Seller had got people coming from all over to look at it. 1 real owner from new and finished at £4900 ish.
Not such a bad thing that prices are rising, people may be more willing to make the effort if the finished result is worth what they put into it instead of the usual automotive money pit. Which ultimately could mean more survive?

1972 Rapier H120
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bigt80

United Kingdom
1052 Posts

Posted - 27 Feb 2015 :  13:29:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That car used to be a regular visitor to Rapier Nationals in the 80's. It was owned by a member from the Cambs area & had a genuine 17k on it when I last saw it, it was used sparingly in those days. I think it has been through a few owners since, but I would say price is pretty good if it has been looked after as well as the 2nd owner did for 20 years. Very genuine car. G

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Originally posted by Rapierdave

and another one

http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C588599

Looks very nice, top money anyone on here know anything about this car ?

Coupes are cool



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Mooresy

United Kingdom
161 Posts

Posted - 15 Mar 2015 :  22:23:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2-1970S-SUNBEAM-RAPIER-H120-CARS-FOR-RESTORATION-/291408183285?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item43d947fff5

Here's a couple of restoration projects JNO 710H.
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JPSH120

United Kingdom
1180 Posts

Posted - 16 Mar 2015 :  10:00:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I remember the 1970 car selling on ebay a few years back, looks like it has been neglected since!

The other one I think could be a standard rapier with H120 bootlid. Chassis number would confirm but I'm not convinced!

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arrocuda

United Kingdom
501 Posts

Posted - 16 Mar 2015 :  20:20:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by JPSH120



The other one I think could be a standard rapier with H120 bootlid. Chassis number would confirm but I'm not convinced!




I would concur with you Jason.... I zoomed in on the pic and it would appear that the VIN plate has been removed.

Tim

Building the 'Mark II' fastback Rapier ('Arrocuda').
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bigt80

United Kingdom
1052 Posts

Posted - 17 Mar 2015 :  08:38:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It's really just speculation from looking at photos. I looked at dash in case I could see an oil temp gauge - not very scientific I know - but that area is obscured, but then if it is a '76 H120, it would have had an ammeter anyway! I've mailed the chap to see if he has Reg/chassis no./V5 for the shell. Cheers. G.
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JPSH120

United Kingdom
1180 Posts

Posted - 17 Mar 2015 :  14:51:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The thing that made me suspicious was the glove box lid, or rather the badge fitted to it...

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arrocuda

United Kingdom
501 Posts

Posted - 20 Mar 2015 :  11:55:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I just got an ebay notification telling me that the H120's have been withdrawn from the auction and are 'no longer available'. Looks like Moorsey has been around there and put the ackers on the table!

Building the 'Mark II' fastback Rapier ('Arrocuda').
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