| T O P I C R E V I E W |
| 1922 |
Posted - 14 May 2010 : 18:55:51
This is where the project starts. A 1968 Rapier in much better condition than it looks thanks to the first owner who very thoughtfully rust proofed it. It's had one sill and I've found a hole in one the chassis leg under the passenger foot well. The rest of the chassis looks very good, original and unwelded.
This shows a Rapier crossmember and suspensions arms compared to an Avenger one.
The Rapier one is a rusty one I pulled out of muddy field.
A closer look:
So first job is to remove the big lump of metal that's in the way:
So I've got some space to see what I'm doing:
 |
| 15 L A T E S T R E P L I E S (Newest First) |
| 1922 |
Posted - 28 Jun 2011 : 19:31:01
Thanks mate.
Next jobs are indicator (including the self cancelling bit), overdrive switches and some sort of cowling/cover.
 |
| Jon |
Posted - 28 Jun 2011 : 16:46:12
Looks ace love it
Hillman Avenger MK1 GT,
Commer PB Pick-Up x2,
Commer PB Panel Van,
Dodge spaceavan Auto sleeper,
Triumph Stag MK1,
Chevette HS x2,
Lancia Delta Integrale,
Fiat Mk1 Uno Turbo, |
| 1922 |
Posted - 27 Jun 2011 : 23:47:33
I've found a steering wheel boss to fit the BMW column. Couldn't find one that would fit my Mountney wheel - that has a 100mm (4 inch) 6 bolt fitting. All I could find was the more modern 70mm 6 bolt fitting so I've had to buy a wheel too.
If any of you want a 14" Mountney classic wheel let me know.
Anyhow - here are a couple of pictures of the new wheel in the car. It's a replica OMP Corsica wheel off ebay.
|
| UMU |
Posted - 29 Oct 2010 : 23:08:38
Bril.
That was as entertaining as an episode of 'A car is born' or similar on the telly.
I would love to learn more about the engineering conciderations of my fastback and be able to work through problems and sums so I can modinise my car as id like.
Thank you for this insight
ps if its not raining i plan to be driving mine all over Devon this weekend, woowhoo
 |
| turbinecol |
Posted - 28 Oct 2010 : 12:23:12
Superb effort, really inspiring stuff. Some people out there just get on and do things, and still take the time to show the rest of us their efforts with terrific forum postings as well. Outstanding work.
Recent back to back comparison of my very low mileage Hunter steering box with an Avenger of a similar ilk surprised me. I actually wasn't half as impressed with the Avenger rack and pinion as I thought I might be. I thought parking was easier, certainly less springy castor action when cornering, but feel wasn't hugely improved and precision was the most disappointing bit around straight ahead. Our joint conclusion was that the Avenger's tyres were fairly lacklustre and expect when those are changed there should be a notable improvement (the Hunter is on new Dunlop SP's, both cars on 4.5Jx13). But we know these cars have always been very tyre sensitive, no news there. |
| 1922 |
Posted - 27 Oct 2010 : 18:38:46
Did the first road test on Saturday (well driveway test  ).
The steering feels "normal" which is good and with none of the normal steering box 'springy' feel. More turns lock to lock than I've got used to in modern cars.
The manual says 3.66 turns for the Avenger and 3.33 for the Rapier - I'll have to wait till I can drive on tarmac with some proper wheels on before I decide to change to a quick rack or stick with the standard Avenger unit.
Here is a pic of the test drive:
Also a video:
http://s941.photobucket.com/albums/ad256/1922rapier/Rapier%202/Steering%20Rack%20Project/Steering-Small.mp4
Had the stop to wave hello to the neighbours half way!
You might spot the water dripping out the radiator at the end.
I might have another go with some proper wheels on soon, just to compare the feel. Normally the 195 tyres making parking heavy work, but the steering rack might have solved that problem too. |
| bigt80 |
Posted - 19 Oct 2010 : 15:32:12
Real progress then; despite the usual un-planned for hassles. Really surprised at the amount of wear that can be present in the reaction rods! Must check mine after 40 years; well 30 on the road .
Mention of good old Ackermann. Yes, the Rapier doesn't have any is one of the problems as both front wheels are trying to rotate at at the same angle/speed when cornering: that's why it has such a dead feel: esp. noticeable when you jump back in after driving more modern machinery. Much as I love the cars the steering is what really lets it down in my opinion. If only they'd done what 1922 is doing now: well with the benefit of a large factory behind them & then we could have had proper steering like the Avengers!
Thanks for an excellent thread here Derek: has been most interesting & glad all of your hard work is now starting to come together. Cheers. G. |
| 1922 |
Posted - 18 Oct 2010 : 19:53:12
Got some more done on Saturday. The plan was to get the Rapier back on it's wheels, engine running and go for a drive around the garden (lack of test certificate, road tax, registration documents and insurance prevent anything more exciting).
Naturally this didn't work out as the tyres were flat, the clutch fluid had all vanished and the radiator decided that the garage floor needed a good clean (which is true as the oil pressure gauge pipe split last week).
After getting the clutch working and the engine running I managed to get the tracking set - not very accurately as I've done it with a tape measure but it will do for now.
The new steering arms are a little straighter than the originals:
So I was a bit concerned about the Ackerman angles (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ackermann_steering_geometry) so I did the string test to check the angles. For full Ackermann a piece of string stretched from centre of the back axle to the centre of turn should go under the steering arm, and it does. See:
A Rapier doesn't normally have any Ackerman but this shouldn't cause any problems.
You'll also notice a small welding job I have to do.
|
| TurboZed |
Posted - 17 Oct 2010 : 20:12:48
Still about Derek, I've just been so busy with other things, cars and car forums have taken a back seat (excuse the pun!) for the time been. Also due to an unfortunate change in circumstances its unlikely that I'll be able to buy a rapier for several years.....
Regards,
Jim Gough
Looking for a fastback Rapier.... |
| 1922 |
Posted - 15 Oct 2010 : 20:07:06
Thanks Jim, I hadn't thought of CV grease. Got some Dinitrol 3125 in there at the moment.
Nice to see you back on the forum. |
| TurboZed |
Posted - 14 Oct 2010 : 22:52:59
Quick tip on the brake reaction rods. When you reasemble them, use copious amounts of CV grease where they go through the rubber. Its important not to use normal grease as it will attack the rubber and make it swell and aventually fail. It would probably be a good idea to repack every few years to stop the rod ever corroding. Getting the part powder coated after repair might be a good option as well.
Regards,
Jim Gough
Looking for a fastback Rapier.... |
| janmarine3 |
Posted - 13 Oct 2010 : 09:44:12
I am willing to bet you won't just potter around the garden once that engine has fired up the first time again... |
| 1922 |
Posted - 12 Oct 2010 : 22:52:35
Blue engine paint from Wilco :-)
http://www.wilcodirect.co.uk/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=10_44&products_id=3774
New engine won't be soon - won't be till the paintwork is done, until then the oily lump will do for driving around the garden. |
| Jon |
Posted - 12 Oct 2010 : 15:26:10
Looking good i like the factory look blue paint on the knuckle joint When the shiney new engine being built and going in?
Hillman Avenger MK1 GT,
Commer PB Pick-Up x2,
Commer PB Panel Van,
Dodge spaceavan Auto sleeper,
Triumph Stag MK1,
Chevette HS x2,
Lancia Delta Integrale,
Fiat Mk1 Uno Turbo, |
| 1922 |
Posted - 10 Oct 2010 : 19:28:54
Today I refitted the engine. This took all day - I remember doing this four times in day twenty years ago - somehow it seemed easier then...
Didn't bother with pictures of this bit - it looks the same as when it came out
All went well - the engine mounts were no more difficult then normal - just the usual amount of skinned knuckles and swearing required.
The steering gear is well away from the engine - he's a shot from the top:
From the front:
And finally from just behind the front wheel - the pool of oil is the result of the oil pressure gauge pipe splitting just near the union, fortunately I have a spare but it's going to ages to clean the floor up - oh well:
I've only got about two thirds of the gearbox bolts in - that will do for now. I've only got half of them - I hate to think how many thousands of miles Argonaut drove this car between here, Germany and Sweden with only the half of the bell housing bolts fitted  |
